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THIS FORUM IS A WASTE OF TIME
Sep 25th, 2003 at 10:01pm
 
No one replies to most threads. What is the point of this forum? People ask for help and no one gives it. Where has the compassion among us gone?

If anyone needs help with any criminal issue, email me and I guarantee you will get a reply within 6 hours.

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Reply #1 - Oct 2nd, 2003 at 2:06am
 
Thankyou I thought it was just me that felt that way!
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Reply #2 - Oct 2nd, 2003 at 5:06am
 
I could delete this thread, but I'm not going to.  You have a point.

I have no knowledge of nor interest in criminal law so sorry, won't be taking advantage of your free criminal law advice from a random stranger offer.

I do have to object to the "waste of time" comment.  If you don't like it, then go somewhere else.  Oh, wait a second - there isn't somewhere else is there?

There are a lot of benefits to this forum, but it does have its flaws.  Is your comment addressed at this site and its forums or at the Scottish legal profession in general?
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Reply #3 - Oct 2nd, 2003 at 5:17am
 
Stax,

I've checked your past messages.  You are quite a good contributor to the forum.  Don't feel too disheartened.  You can go for a while replying to people and not receive anything back but once in a while you do.

Would be interested in hearing your thought on the site generally.

Got any?
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Reply #4 - Oct 5th, 2003 at 12:47am
 
I would agree with your comments upto a point. I myself have attempted to answer some of the threads (when time allowed) even though i'm not a qualified solicitor, but do possess a law degree.   When you think about it, the comment is in all probably directed towards the Scottish legal profession, and where they are concerned i leave you with this cynical thought.
All the threads are potential 'customers' to the legal profession are they not?
Why then should they provide free legal advice when they, or fellow members of their profession, can charge for it?
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Reply #5 - Oct 6th, 2003 at 7:56pm
 
Well, I studied law too, but became a journalist... and then a flying instructor.

From a business point of view, newspapers such as the Sunday Mail publish legal queries because it interests the readers, and boosts sales.

From a lawyer's point of view, perhaps reading about legal cases involving others might encourage people to consult about their "specific" circumstances... and thus create chargeable time.

In fact, solicitors often have "first meeting free" offers to tempt customers. So a forum could be an extension of that.

At Old College there was a weekly evening session run by students to give legal advice (with the help of lecturers, I suppose). Maybe enlisting the help of teaching staff and their students would be an idea?

Best wishes to all,

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Reply #6 - Oct 13th, 2003 at 3:55pm
 
Hope you don't mind me adding my comments.
I am an IT professional with no involvement in the legal system. I have personally posted two threads which have had no replies. Although this is disappointing I can understand that it is down to good will at this stage.
Although personally I disagree with the waste of time aspect I can see how a lot of similar people are frustrated with no replies to there posts. The debate on this could be endless.
As each individual is hoping for a reply that can direct them accordingly, a suggestion would be that every post is given at least a basic reply from forum admin, something like:
1. YES - you are advised to seek professional legal advice - there may be a case.
2. NO - you do not have a case.
3. MORE INFO REQ - more information would be required to comment further.
4. Free legal advice is given and the post replied to in full.

This is just a suggestion - it depends on how you want this forum to go.

I believe that a lot of people are just probing to see if it is worth while seeking legal help before encurring potential high costs. Some may just want to get free advice but with the correct feedback mechanism all parties may achieve satisfaction.
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Reply #7 - Oct 14th, 2003 at 4:50am
 
I think that is a very good point.

My problem with that approach has always been that I thought that if a post looked as if it had been satisfactorily answered by someone then other visitors would not take the time to add their own comments.

Is the general consensus that the reason this forum doesn't get as many helpful replies as it might do is because I don't post enough?

The whole reason for this forum was to reduce the number of e-mails I receive asking for help through the site.  As far as I'm concerned this has been a huge success but I do recognise that many of the queries do not go answered.  That is a problem that I would like to address.

Has anyone any suggestions?

I will try and keep an eye on posts more often and post helpful suggestions where I can.  Sorry for not doing this so often in the past.

More importantly, the development of Scottish Law Online is my primary focus.  The site's main entry page is http://www.scottishlaw.org.uk and much of my time is devoted to developing new ideas and areas for this.

I would like to see Scottish Law Online branch out into a Europe-wide coverage of issues of relevance to Scottish lawyers, students and academics.  If you have any suggestions please post them - no matter how abprupt you want to make your comment.

Kind regards,

Kevin Crombie.

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Reply #8 - Oct 15th, 2003 at 6:09pm
 
Thanks you for the last post Kevin. It has cleared things up a little for me.

Perhaps you may want to look at the people who actually log onto the site.

There appears to be two identifiable groups here

1. Legal people looking for legal help and resources.
2. Non-legal people looking for legal advice or direction.

I would suggest trying to split the two groups. You appear to have the first group pretty much taken care off with your existing site.

The second group is the problem. Perhaps a new area could be created for this group of people. My previous suggestion of every post getting a basic answer could be applied to posts in this area.

Why do I persue this basic answer course of action?

I believe that a lot of requests or posts are from people that do not know whether they should persue legal action or not. We quite simply are looking for professional guidance without potential hugh costs. A basic response from professionals in the business could provide that much needed guidance.

It may require support by your colleagues however but it also could generate business for local firms.
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Reply #9 - Nov 4th, 2003 at 3:51am
 
Hello again. Sorry about the delay in replying to this thread but I was incarcerated in Barlinnie on a charge of "liking the music of Celine Dion" which had been hanging over my head since I was spotted at her July 8th 1999 concert at Murrayfield Stadium.

I didn't mean to be disrespectful towards those who run and manage this site. I apologise for my tone in the initial thread.

SORRY!!!!!!!

I think this site has far too many sections. I also believe that the site has no direction. It would be a better place with fewer sections and more specialised areas being signposted.

An advisory service would be a great idea, as mentioned above, that offers people in need of legal help to consult on here first then decide their next move in the real world. People need reassurance with law matters. This site could be great if it provided a first stop cutting edge legal advice service for everyone in Scotland. Free of charge I may add. Ok, who would give out the advice? I am not sure on that, but there must be someone out there with legal knowledge and compassion? I think it is a total disgrace that someone could be misrepresented in court because money is a factor.

Wouldn't it be great if people in Scotland knew the name of this forum like they do other great public services?

In short, someone gets charged with a crime, they log on here and seek advice, anonymously, then, armed with a clear direction, they go off and fight for innocence.

Ok, sounds naive, but I am great believer in helping to make the world a better place.

Pass me that red button.....
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Reply #10 - Nov 8th, 2003 at 7:01pm
 
I think these are all very good points.  They may turn out to be a little ime consuming to put into practice though.  The primary goal of the site was always to help people find information quickly.

You probably won't be too enthused by my aim to expand the site to cover the other 45 European countries then?  I think that may lead to more short term confusion but may pay off in the long term?

Any thoughts?
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Reply #11 - Nov 24th, 2003 at 6:14am
 
Anyone have any suggestions for how I can turn this site into a database driven site?

The site is on a server that has perl, cgi, mysql, php installed?
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Reply #12 - Oct 29th, 2007 at 11:31pm
 
How time flies...
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Reply #14 - Nov 8th, 2007 at 12:55pm
 
I try to reply to queries when I have time. Mostly though the information given is just not sufficient ot give a full anwer. On a few occasions my advice has resulted in a fairly unpleasant  reception.  Such reactions make me feel I would be better spending my time giving advice for which I get paid!

I agree though that there are too many sections and that 4 might do - for example.
1. Jobs 2. Studying/qualifying/Training 3. Queries from people working in law. 4. Queries from the public.

Must go back to earning a living.
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