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Message started by kikido on Dec 4th, 2007 at 6:36pm

Title: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by kikido on Dec 4th, 2007 at 6:36pm
I qualified in England, ages ago, and then left the profession to bring up my kids. By choice, strangely, I am once again studying - aiming to requalify in Scots law and am genning up (alone, at home, with the study materials) to sit the Intra UK Trnsfer Test in March 08. I shan't need to do the EC law paper. I wonder if anyone has experience of Papers l and ll (Conveyancing, Trusts and Succession; and Civil and Criminal Evidence and Procedure)? I am just a bit out of it all, studying on my own, and so any advice or comments on the severity of the exams would help. Does anyone know, positive thinking aside, whether the failure rate is high??

Title: Re: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by Eoin on Jan 14th, 2008 at 1:04pm
hi there

Ive been practising in london for a number of years and am taking the intra uk examinations in march. have you purchased the materials from CLT - and are they worth the expense?

i`m working my way through text books at the moment - and its heavy going.

Title: Re: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by kikido on Jan 17th, 2008 at 12:59am
Hi, yes, I think the clt study guides are helpful - I'll soon know how helpful! They are lighter reading than some textbooks tho' of course this probably means we don't have the depth of knowledge and doubtless not as strong a foundation as law lectures and seminars were. Nevertheless,if we are studying alone, they cover the ground quite approachably.

From March 08, when I will sit them, the exams are "open book" - a new concept to me but, having spoken to Treena Jobson at the Law Soc of Scotland about this , she seems to think it will make our life easier as the exams haven't changed in structure nor in what they demand of us. Way to go!

Encouraging to hear someone else is ploughing away to qualify in Scots law - I don't think there's a plethora of us!

Any advice you can give will be appreciated!




Title: Re: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by Eoin on Jan 19th, 2008 at 11:00am
Hi there

as for advice i`m afraid that i haven`t been as diligent in my studies as i should be (working 50+ hours a week doesn`t help) and have only really been skimming the text books - but will be getting stuck in soon and i`m taking the week off before the exams and booking in somewhere close to edinburgh in order to cut myself off from all distractions. my main woory is that i`ve been practising for 8 years now in London and have specialised in both property and crime. It appears i have to de-learn every i know at the moment and substitute it with the scot`s equivalent - which can lead to much confusion.

also having spent a fortune on text books im loath to pay the 800 for course materials from CLT. Id be happy to share the cost if you felt that there was anything within the material of particular benefit that could be copied.

Title: Re: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by kikido on Jan 19th, 2008 at 1:57pm
Hi again and trying to think here how i can help.

My experience is quite different as I haven't been practising for a long while so am less knowledgeable than you and so have less to "forget"!
Are you looking at old exam papers? I can send you copies, or you can get them from the law soc scotland at 1 a shot. I would help with the clt study materials too but logistically can't see how it can be done - there are about 1800 pages of notes!

Before you panic, I would say that the majority of the material is written quite simply and even chattily! There are refs to statutes and case law but as yet I have just been reading within the study material, and haven't done wmuch wider reading (time restraints). God knows if it'll be enough and I can't face the idea of failure!! So, coming at the exams from different approaches, you and i. I am sure you will be fine as your current experience will help rather than hinder, I think.

Are you working in Scotland now?

Good to be in touch with another Intra-UK Transfer test student!


Title: Re: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by kikido on Jan 19th, 2008 at 2:25pm
Eoin, do you want to exchange phone numbers? We might find each other of some help and certainly it would be encouraging and of moral support. Email addresses first, perhaps?

Title: Re: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by Eoin on Jan 21st, 2008 at 6:39pm
Sure - moral support most welcome

my email address is [Deleted by Forum Admin]. Don`t think i`ll be of much help immediately - but hope to be up to speed soon (famous last words).

I`ve been working in london for 10 years and thinking of moving to scotland ( where my wife`s from) at the end of this year - so need to get these exams.

Title: Re: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by Forum Admin on Jan 21st, 2008 at 8:24pm
Sorry - I deleted that, more for your own protection.  Its not just search engines that scour the web looking for information to index, spammers do too, to collect e-mail addresses.

Send the address again, but by using the send a message option in the User's profile.

Title: Re: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by kikido on Jan 22nd, 2008 at 4:54pm
Oh well, thanks for trying - I shall send you my email address as suggested by forum admin'or - if I can work out how to do so!

Watch this space!

Title: Re: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by guyla on Feb 11th, 2008 at 3:54pm
Anyone able to give honest opinion of whether its really possible to do the work for the Transfer Test while holding down normal caseload ?
Before I start, need to work out whether I'm deluding myself....
CLT course seems to be recommended, but any views on whether it goes deep enough ?


Title: Re: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by scottishlaw on Feb 11th, 2008 at 10:30pm
Would this be transferring from England to Scotland or from Scotland to England?

Title: Re: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by guyla on Feb 12th, 2008 at 8:36am
England to Scotland.  

Title: Re: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by scottishlaw on Feb 12th, 2008 at 12:46pm
Ah, sorry - no idea then. I went the other way.

If anyone's asking the same question but about Scotland to England, then yes it is easily possibly to do the QLTT and manage your existing workload at the same time.

Title: Re: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by karlos1977 on Mar 5th, 2009 at 10:19pm
is anyone intending to do the Intra UK transfer test this May? I am wading through the books, but a bit concerned that I haven't done enough studying for it so far...

Title: Re: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by tinu1973 on Aug 14th, 2009 at 11:02am

Eoin wrote on Jan 19th, 2008 at 11:00am:
Hi there

as for advice i`m afraid that i haven`t been as diligent in my studies as i should be (working 50+ hours a week doesn`t help) and have only really been skimming the text books - but will be getting stuck in soon and i`m taking the week off before the exams and booking in somewhere close to edinburgh in order to cut myself off from all distractions. my main woory is that i`ve been practising for 8 years now in London and have specialised in both property and crime. It appears i have to de-learn every i know at the moment and substitute it with the scot`s equivalent - which can lead to much confusion.

also having spent a fortune on text books im loath to pay the 800 for course materials from CLT. Id be happy to share the cost if you felt that there was anything within the material of particular benefit that could be copied.


Hi  I am planning to go for intra transfer test in nov.2009 I would appreciate your help ,tips for the test
regards

Title: Re: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by tinu1973 on Aug 14th, 2009 at 11:04am

karlos1977 wrote on Mar 5th, 2009 at 10:19pm:
is anyone intending to do the Intra UK transfer test this May? I am wading through the books, but a bit concerned that I haven't done enough studying for it so far...



Hi  I am planning to go for intra transfer test in nov.2009 I would appreciate your help ,tips for the test  
regards

Title: Re: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by tinu1973 on Aug 14th, 2009 at 11:05am

Eoin wrote on Jan 21st, 2008 at 6:39pm:
Sure - moral support most welcome

my email address is [Deleted by Forum Admin]. Don`t think i`ll be of much help immediately - but hope to be up to speed soon (famous last words).

I`ve been working in london for 10 years and thinking of moving to scotland ( where my wife`s from) at the end of this year - so need to get these exams.


Hi  I am planning to go for intra transfer test in nov.2009 I would appreciate your help ,tips for the test  
regards

Title: Re: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by HugoS on Aug 21st, 2009 at 7:43am
tinu1973,

I wouldn't bother with the CLT study materials; they're overpriced and badly written. One gets the impression that CLT has adapted the materials from other courses. The materials which CLT provided me with didn't even cover civil litigation or provide styles for the compulsory drafting question in the conveyancing paper. Your money would be better spent on textbooks, which will provide in depth information on the subjects to be tested.

No doubt about it: solicitors qualified in Scotland have had it easy qualifying as solicitors in England. The SRA requires that Scottish solicitors sit just one QLTT paper. Unfortunately, the Law Society of Scotland is not so generous towards English qualified solicitors who would qualify in Scotland!

Title: Re: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by tinu1973 on Aug 21st, 2009 at 9:22am
Thanks for your reply

I got your point ,I will follow your advice but would you mind to advice when did you get that ?
can I borrow or have a look  that materials for rest of subjects( except conveyancing) .I would be happy to discuss on phone ,if you dont mind.

It is true I got qualified in England and it was easy but seems scottish may be tough .

thanks again




HugoS wrote on Aug 21st, 2009 at 7:43am:
tinu1973,

I wouldn't bother with the CLT study materials; they're overpriced and badly written. One gets the impression that CLT has adapted the materials from other courses. The materials which CLT provided me with didn't even cover civil litigation or provide styles for the compulsory drafting question in the conveyancing paper. Your money would be better spent on textbooks, which will provide in depth information on the subjects to be tested.

No doubt about it: solicitors qualified in Scotland have had it easy qualifying as solicitors in England. The SRA requires that Scottish solicitors sit just one QLTT paper. Unfortunately, the Law Society of Scotland is not so generous towards English qualified solicitors who would qualify in Scotland!


Title: Re: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by HugoS on Aug 24th, 2009 at 1:30am
I'll gladly provide you with a photocopy of the two books other than conveyancing, if you are prepared to pay the photocopying and postage costs.

Title: Re: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by tinu1973 on Aug 24th, 2009 at 9:14am

HugoS wrote on Aug 24th, 2009 at 1:30am:
I'll gladly provide you with a photocopy of the two books other than conveyancing, if you are prepared to pay the photocopying and postage costs.



Yes I am ready for that . I am in Glasgow are you staying near by ,Or could we talk on phone

Title: Re: Intra UK Transfer Test
Post by HugoS on Aug 27th, 2009 at 6:56am
email me: hugo@fea.st

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